a buddy of mine keeps telling me to just switch to N1MM and be done with it, says it handles contests way better and the WSJT-X integration through the UDP port is rock solid. but i do a lot of casual DX chasing between contests and from what i remember N1MM's everyday logging is kind of bare bones? like you're not getting the station lookup or award tracking stuff Log4OM does pretty well.

curious if anyone runs both or has a workflow that doesnt feel like constantly switching gears. do people just keep two separate logs and merge them or what

my current workflow is kind of a mess honestly — i run WSJT-X for FT8 and FT4, that logs to its own ADIF file, then i manually import that into N1MM every so often which is annoying and i always worry im creating duplicates. theres gotta be a better way to handle this. does Log4OM talk to WSJT-X any better or is it basically the same situation

also do people just run two separate logging programs or is there a clean way to have one master log that everything feeds into. ive read about using UDP packets from WSJT-X but havent actually gotten that working yet

anyway a buddy at the club keeps telling me to try Log4OM and i downloaded it a couple weeks ago but havent really dug into it yet. main thing i care about is decent WSJT-X integration since i do a lot of FT8, and also being able to pull in my old N1MM logs without losing everything. anyone actually made that switch or are you running both? i kind of dont want to run two separate programs if i can help it but maybe thats just how it goes

also does Log4OM handle contest logging at all or is that still really N1MM territory

the thing thats really bugging me now is WSJT-X. i have it talking to Log4OM just fine via UDP and that works great for FT8 on a normal weekend. but when i tried to run a contest last month — it was the ARRL DX CW actually — i had N1MM open at the same time and i think both programs were trying to grab the UDP packets from WSJT-X and it turned into a mess. not sure if i had the ports wrong or what but half my FT8 contacts just didnt show up anywhere.

is there a clean way to run these together or do most people just pick one and commit to it for the whole operating event? feels like theres probably a smarter way to do this that im not seeing.

a buddy of mine keeps telling me to try Log4OM and i downloaded it a while back but never really dug into it. the interface looked a bit different and i just went back to N1MM out of habit. does anyone actually run two separate loggers, like N1MM strictly for contests and something like Log4OM for general use? or is that more trouble than its worth keeping two logs synced up

also i run WSJT-X on the side for FT8 and i know it can log to both but ive had weirdness before where dupes show up or the freq data doesnt come through right. running an IC-7300 if that matters

someone at the club mentioned Log4OM and i downloaded it and poked around but honestly the interface threw me off a bit, theres a lot going on. i do run WSJT-X for FT8 and that seems to play nice with pretty much everything via UDP so thats not really the concern.

i guess what im wondering is whether anyone actually runs both — like N1MM for when a contest is on and Log4OM or something else as the daily driver — and how annoying is it to keep them in sync or not have duplicate QSOs showing up everywhere. or is there some other setup that just handles both cases without switching apps all the time.

a buddy of mine keeps telling me to look at Log4OM and i finally downloaded it last week. first impression is that it feels a lot more polished for day to day use, the QSO entry is smoother and i like how it handles the LoTW sync. but now im wondering how people handle the workflow when contest season rolls around -- do you just export from Log4OM and import into N1MM, or is there a cleaner way to keep everything in one place without losing your mind.

also im running WSJT-X pretty regularly for FT8 and the way it logs back to N1MM through the UDP port has always worked fine for me, curious if Log4OM handles that the same way or if theres some config headache involved. dont want to rebuild everything if its going to be a mess.

someone at the club mentioned Log4OM and i downloaded it and poked around for like an hour but couldnt really figure out how the WSJT-X integration works with it. like does it just read the ADIF log that WSJT-X writes out or is there actual live UDP logging happening? i set up the UDP stuff with N1MM and WSJT-X a while back and that works pretty seamlessly but i dont know if Log4OM handles it the same way.

also curious if anyone uses Log4OM for contests at all or if thats just not really what its for. i dont want to maintain two separate logging setups if i can help it but i also dont want to give up how well N1MM works during like a CQ WW weekend.

a buddy of mine at the club has been using Log4OM v2 for a while and keeps saying it does both worlds pretty well, handles day to day logging with all the awards tracking and DXCC and everything but also has decent contest support, i havent actually sat down with it myself yet just seen it over his shoulder a couple times

my other thing is WSJT-X obviously auto logs to whatever you point it at and i have it pointing at N1MM right now during contests which works fine, but when im just doing FT8 casually i kinda dont want to fire up N1MM just for that, so ive been running WSJT-X standalone and then importing the ADIF later which is always kind of a mess honestly

anyone else juggle multiple logging programs or did you find one that handles all of this without being annoying? not looking to run two logbooks long term if i can avoid it

my question is basically whether its worth having two separate logging programs going or if N1MM can just handle everything including importing my WSJT-X logs on a regular basis. i tried N1MM briefly and it felt like flying a 747 when i just need to drive to the grocery store if that makes sense. Log4OM is comfortable for me, has all my contacts organized the way i like, awards tracking, the whole thing.

does anyone actually run N1MM as their main everyday logger or is it pretty much contest-only for most people? and does the WSJT-X integration work well in N1MM or is that still kind of clunky

been looking at Log4OM and it seems way more geared toward general station logging with the award tracking and all that. my question is really about WSJT-X integration because i run FT8 probably 4 or 5 nights a week and i dont want to be juggling two logs or having dupes showing up everywhere. does Log4OM handle the WSJT-X UDP feed as cleanly as N1MM does, or is there still weirdness with it. read some stuff online but half of it seems to be from like 2019 and im not sure how much has changed since then.

also wondering if anyone just runs both and keeps them synced somehow, seems like a nightmare but maybe im overthinking it

a buddy of mine keeps telling me to look at Log4OM and from what i can tell it seems way more flexible for general logging, nice interface, integrates with stuff like QRZ and clublog without jumping through hoops. but here's my thing — i also run WSJT-X for FT8 and the integration between WSJT-X and N1MM is already set up and working. i got UDP logging going, dupes get flagged, the whole deal. i dont really want to break that.

so i guess my question is has anyone actually run Log4OM alongside WSJT-X and does that UDP pipe work the same way? and if you do contests do you just fire up N1MM for those events and let Log4OM handle everything else, or is that going to create a mess with duplicate logs you have to merge later. the ADIF import/export thing seems like it should work but ive heard horror stories about dupe QSOs and date/time mismatches when people try to merge logs from different programs.

not looking to overthink this i just want something that doesnt feel like im running a contest 24/7 when im just sitting down for an hour on 40m.

a buddy at the club keeps telling me to just use N1MM for everything because it handles contests really well and i know thats true, ive used it at field day and its great when youre running a pile up and need the dupe checking and the rate meter and all that. but for day to day logging it feels kind of heavy, like i dont need all that firepower just to log a ragchew on 40m.

Log4OM has been on my radar for a while. it looks nicer and seems more oriented toward general logging with the qsl tracking and the lotw integration being smoother maybe? but i honestly dont know if it plays nice with WSJT-X in real time or if youre still doing the adif import dance.

anyone running both? like N1MM when a contest comes up and Log4OM the rest of the time? does keeping two logs not drive you crazy? i guess you can merge adif files but that seems like a headache waiting to happen

I've verified the IP address is set to 127.0.0.1 in both programs, but something isn't connecting properly. Under the Radio tab in WSJT-X, I changed the rig control method to "DX Lab Suite Commander" as instructed, but my IC-7300 frequency control isn't working reliably.

Has anyone else experienced similar issues with the latest N1MM+ build? The digital integration was working flawlessly last season, but after updating both programs, I'm having connectivity problems.

a buddy at the club mentioned Log4OM and i downloaded it and poked around for like an hour but honestly it felt like a lot to learn and i wasnt sure if it was going to be any better for contests or if id have to keep N1MM around just for that anyway. does anyone actually run both? like Log4OM for day to day and then switch to N1MM when a contest comes around? how much of a pain is it keeping everything in sync between them

also side question — does Log4OM talk to WSJT-X natively or is there still some ADIF import/export dance you have to do

anyway i started looking at Log4OM because a few guys at the club swear by it for day to day logging and general station management, it looks way more modern and apparently handles WSJT-X integration pretty well which is something i care about since i run FT8 a fair amount in between contests. my question is whether anyone has actually made the switch from N1MM to Log4OM or runs both and what the workflow is like when contest season hits again. like does Log4OM hold up for something like CQWW or SS or do you end up going back to N1MM just for those weekends

also curious how people are handling the WSJT-X side of things, right now i just let WSJT-X log to its own ADIF and then import periodically which feels clunky but works. is there a cleaner way people are doing this

lately ive also been doing more FT8 and WSPR through WSJT-X and that adds a third log to deal with. WSJT-X writes its own ADIF and i import it into Log4OM but sometimes there are dupes or the timestamps are slightly off and it just gets annoying. anyone else running this kind of setup or have you found a cleaner way to handle it? i thought about just going all in on N1MM for everything but it feels overkill for a casual tuesday night operating session when im just working some DX on 20m.

also not sure if Log4OM can do SO2R stuff if i ever go down that road, probably a question for another day

the thing that bugs me about N1MM outside of contests is that it feels kinda clunky for just logging a random QSO, like if im just working DX on a weekday evening i dont want to have to think about which contest template to load up or whatever. but then Log4OM from what ive read doesnt really have the same contest engine so youre kind of stuck anyway

also been messing around with WSJT-X lately and the logging integration is its own headache. right now its dumping to N1MM via UDP which mostly works but i've had dupes show up a couple times and i cant figure out if its a timing thing or what. anyone else dealing with that or is it just me being sloppy

a buddy of mine keeps telling me to just run N1MM for contests and not fight it, and yeah i know N1MM is basically the standard for serious contesting but i really dont want to manage two separate logs and then have to merge everything back into Log4OM afterward. does anyone actually do that workflow regularly or is it a pain. also curious if the ADIF import from N1MM into Log4OM is clean or do you end up with duplicates and weird fields everywhere.

side question — is anyone running WSJT-X alongside N1MM during a contest or does that get complicated with the UDP ports and everything fighting over the radio

someone at the club mentioned just switching to N1MM full time and letting it handle everything but i always heard N1MM is kind of overkill if youre not seriously contesting. like is it even reasonable to use it for casual ragchew logging and digital modes on a Tuesday night? i dont want to have to think about which software im in every time i sit down at the radio. does anyone actually run N1MM as their main logger day to day or is that kind of weird

but contest season is coming up and everyone keeps telling me just use N1MM for contests, which i get, N1MM is basically the gold standard for that stuff. my issue is i dont really want to maintain two separate logs or manually merge them after every contest. last time i tried importing an ADIF from N1MM into Log4OM after a state QSO party it was kind of a mess, dupes everywhere and some of the exchange data didnt come through clean

also i run WSJT-X on the side for FT8 and that auto-logs to its own file which then i have to remember to import too. so at any given time i have like three sources of truth and none of them fully agree with each other which is driving me nuts

anyone actually have a clean workflow for this or am i just overcomplicating it

Main requirements: seamless WSJT-X integration for FT8/FT4, reliable CAT control with Kenwood TS-890S, and efficient dupe checking across multiple modes. Log4OM's new VOACAP engine features multiple antenna types and mode aware calculations looks impressive for propagation analysis.

Has anyone made the switch from N1MM+ to Log4OM for contest work? How does the scoring accuracy and Cabrillo generation compare?

somebody at the club mentioned Log4OM and i downloaded it but havent really dug in yet. looks like it does a lot more for day to day stuff — awards tracking, LoTW integration, all that. but my concern is the contest side of things. i do mostly state QSO parties and the occasional ARRL contest, nothing super serious, and i really dont want to give up N1MM for that because muscle memory at this point.

what are people actually doing here — running two separate programs and importing logs, or is there a cleaner way to handle this? also curious how WSJT-X fits in for people who do both FT8 and CW contesting. right now i have WSJT-X logging to a separate ADIF and then importing into N1MM after the fact which feels wrong but it works i guess.

any thoughts appreciated, especially if you've actually run Log4OM alongside N1MM rather than just read about it

the thing i cant figure out is a clean workflow when i also want to run WSJT-X on the side. right now i have WSJT-X logging to Log4OM over UDP which mostly works, but then when i switch over to a contest weekend i fire up N1MM and everything kind of falls apart because im basically maintaining two logs and manually merging stuff after the fact which is a nightmare. i know you can pipe WSJT-X to N1MM directly too but then my Log4OM is out of sync.

has anyone actually solved this or is the answer just pick one and live with it. feels like there should be a cleaner way to handle the UDP broadcasts to multiple apps at the same time but i havent dug into that deeply yet.