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solar flux been crazy lately — anyone else noticing weird propagation on 15/17m?

so ive been watching the solar flux numbers for the past few weeks and something weird is going on. we had a couple days where the SFI was pushing up around 180-190 and i was hearing europe like they were next door on 15m, like genuinely loud signals, S7-S8 from stations i normally can barely pull out of the noise. then the next day it just collapsed and 15 was completely dead, couldnt even hear the beacon network.

i know solar cycle 25 is ramping up and everyones excited about it but i dont really understand why it swings so hard day to day. like is this normal for this point in the cycle or is something else going on? the K index was pretty low both days so i dont think it was a geomagnetic thing. been a ham for about 3 years now and im still trying to wrap my head around how all this actually works in practice vs what i read in the handbooks.

also noticed 17m has been doing some weird stuff around sunrise, like there was this maybe 20 minute window a few days ago where i was working japan with just my vertical and 100w, then it snapped shut and nothing. is that a greyline thing or something else?

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  • Frank Nakamura
    Frank Nakamura

    yeah the flux has been all over the place, welcome to the fun part of the solar cycle haha. what youre seeing is pretty normal actually — the SFI tracks with solar activity but it doesnt move in a str

  • Kevin Brown
    Kevin Brown

    the greyline openings to JA are insane when they happen. i remember one morning last spring i stumbled onto 17m half asleep and there were like a dozen JA stations booming in, worked maybe 8 of them i

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yeah the flux has been all over the place, welcome to the fun part of the solar cycle haha. what youre seeing is pretty normal actually — the SFI tracks with solar activity but it doesnt move in a straight line, you get these bursts from active regions rotating across the sun and then quieter periods in between. when a particularly active region comes around the limb it can jack the flux up for several days then tail off as it rotates away. thats probably what you saw.

the 17m sunrise thing is almost certainly greyline. that terminator enhancement is real and its shorter than people expect, sometimes just 15-20 minutes depending on the path geometry and time of year. JA from the east coast US is a classic greyline path, ive worked it many times and it can be stunning and then gone before you even realize what happened. the trick is to be on frequency and ready before it opens because by the time you notice the signals coming up it might already be half over. i keep a greyline clock running on my second monitor during the active season just for this reason.

the day to day swing you described where it just collapses even with low K is interesting though — did you check if there was a proton event or any X-ray flux? sometimes a flare will cause a shortwave fadeout on the sunlit side that has nothing to do with geomagnetic conditions, its a different mechanism entirely. worth checking the NOAA SWPC data after the fact to see if anything correlates.

the greyline openings to JA are insane when they happen. i remember one morning last spring i stumbled onto 17m half asleep and there were like a dozen JA stations booming in, worked maybe 8 of them in 15 minutes and then it was completely gone. didnt even have my coffee yet lol

honestly i just use the DX cluster and pskreporter to know when a band is actually open instead of trying to predict it. when i see spots lighting up on a path i care about i jump on. the theory stuff is interesting but the cluster never lies

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