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collinear vs yagi for 2m/70cm base station — worth the hassle?

so ive been running a diamond x50 on my roof for about two years now and it works fine for local repeater stuff, but i keep wondering if i should throw up a yagi or two for weak signal work. problem is i dont really have a rotator setup and the idea of aiming a beam every time i want to work someone sounds annoying honestly.

what i'm trying to figure out is whether a decent gain collinear like the x300 or maybe a comet gp-9 would give me enough of a signal boost over the x50 to actually notice a difference on 2m ssb, or if im basically wasting money and should just commit to a yagi with a rotator. my station is in a pretty flat area, southeast ohio, nothing too crazy elevation wise. i work into some of the local hills occasionally and it gets frustrating when i can hear someone barely but cant quite get the contact.

anybody run both setups and have opinions? also open to the fixed yagi idea if someone can convince me the aiming thing isnt as bad as i think it is

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the x300 over the x50 is gonna give you maybe 2-3 dB real world and honestly on 2m ssb that barely moves the needle. collinears are great for omnidirectional work but they're compressing the pattern vertically, which helps when everything is roughly the same elevation but kind of hurts you if you're working into terrain that's higher or lower than you.

i went through the same thing a few years back and eventually just put up a 9 element yagi pointed roughly northeast because that's where most of the interesting stuff comes from for me. yeah you miss contacts that are off axis but a 9el has enough beamwidth that you're covered maybe 60-70 degrees without moving it. if you know where your targets generally are, a fixed yagi at like 12-15 dBd is going to absolutely murder a collinear for weak signal. the gain difference is just too big to argue with.

rotators arent that bad if you get a decent one btw. az-el is overkill for terrestrial 2m, even a simple tv rotator honestly works fine for a light yagi. i used a channel master for two years before i upgraded.

yeah what he said about the collinear gains is pretty accurate, dont expect miracles from stepping up in collinears if you already have the x50. i tried the gp-9 and it was fine but nothing that made me go wow.

one thing nobody mentions enough is coax loss at those frequencies. if you're running like 50 or 75 feet of rg8x up to your antenna you're eating a significant chunk of whatever gain you think you're getting. worth calculating that before you spend money on a new antenna honestly. lmr400 or hardline makes a bigger differnce than people expect.

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