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antenna placement on my truck cab - getting weird SWR readings

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so ive been trying to sort out my dual band mobile setup in my F-150 for the past few weeks and im getting inconsistent SWR readings depending on where i put the antenna. right now its on a lip mount on the rear of the cab roof and im seeing around 1.4:1 on 2m which isnt terrible but on 70cm it jumps all over the place sometimes 2.5:1 and sometimes almost flat. antenna is a Tram 1185 which i know a lot of people use without issues.

i ran the coax down through the door jamb and into the cab, used some split loom to protect it. the radio itself is a Yaesu FTM-300 mounted under the dash. grounding is to the chassis via the radio mounting bracket.

not sure if this is a coax issue or a ground plane issue or what. the truck has a lot of plastic body panels near the rear which i wonder if thats affecting things. anyone run into something similar on these newer trucks with less metal to work with

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yeah the plastic panel thing is almost certainly your problem on 70cm. the ground plane on these modern trucks is just not what it used to be. a lot of guys go to a mag mount on the roof center just to test and if the SWR flattens out that tells you its definitely a ground plane situation not the antenna or coax. lip mounts can be finicky too, the connection between the mount and the vehicle body matters a lot more than people think.

also worth checking if your coax is getting pinched anywhere in the door jamb run. even a small kink can do weird things especially at UHF frequencies where everything is more sensitive. what coax are you using? if its RG-58 id swap it out for LMR-240 or even RG-8X, makes a real difference on a run that length.

i had almost the exact same problem on my tacoma. ended up being that the lip mount wasnt making good electrical contact with the roof edge, there was a thin coat of paint plus some factory sealer in there. took a piece of sandpaper and scraped down to bare metal where the mount contacts the roof and night and day difference. kinda annoying to do but it fixed it.

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