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dipole vs vertical for 40m — am i overthinking this

so ive been going back and forth on this for like two months now and i think im just spinning my wheels at this point. currently running a half wave dipole for 40m fed with coax, its up about 25 feet in an inverted V configuration with the apex tied to a tree. works okay but i feel like im leaving something on the table especially for DX, most of my contacts are stateside which is fine but i keep hearing these guys working EU and JA with no trouble and im just not getting through.

someone at the club meeting suggested a vertical with radials would give me better low angle radiation and help with DX. that makes sense to me in theory but then i also read that a dipole at low heights is more of a cloud warmer anyway so maybe i just need to get it higher. my lot isnt huge so getting it much above 30 feet is going to be tough without a real tower situation which im not ready for financially.

does the vertical actually make that big a difference or is 25 feet just always going to be a compromise on 40m regardless of antenna type

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honest answer is both options are a compromise at 25 feet on 40m, theres no getting around the physics. a dipole that low is going to have a high angle of radiation, good for regional stuff but not ideal for the long path DX you're after. that said a vertical with a decent radial field can do pretty well if you put the work in. the thing people dont always mention is the radials — you really need a lot of them, like 16 minimum on the ground to get the efficiency up, and even then a vertical is going to pick up more noise than the dipole just by nature of the design. if you can swing getting the dipole up to 40 or 50 feet even with a taller support you'd probably see a bigger improvement than switching to a vertical with a mediocre radial field. the inverted V isnt bad but the lower the angle of the legs the better for your purposes, some guys run them pretty flat if they have two supports far enough apart.

i went through almost the exact same thing last year, had a 40m dipole at about 28 feet and felt like i was shouting into a pillow for DX. ended up putting up a Hustler 6BTV vertical with about 24 radials cut to roughly a quarter wave and honestly it changed things quite a bit for 40 and 80. still not crushing it on EU but i can get through now when conditions are decent. the noise floor did go up noticeably though, especially in the evenings. so yeah the elbow grease on radials is real, i spent a whole saturday pinning wire to the ground and i probably should have laid more.

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