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NMO mount vs lip mount for dual band mobile — worth the hassle to drill?

so ive been running a mag mount dual bander on my truck for about two years now and honestly its fine but i keep reading that NMO is the way to go if you actually care about performance. my issue is im a little nervous about drilling into the roof of a relatively new truck, its a 2021 f150 and i dont want to make a mess of it or have water getting in later.

the mag mount sits on the roof right now and i get into the local repeaters fine, occasionally have issues on the 70cm side when im further out but i dont know if thats the antenna, the radio, or just the repeater being finicky. someone at the club told me the ground plane on a mag mount is never as good as a proper NMO through the roof and that explains the UHF dropouts. makes sense to me in theory but i havent actually measured anything.

has anyone gone through the drilling process on a newer truck and regretted it or is it basically a non issue if you do it right? also wondering if a lip mount on the door or trunk edge would be a reasonable middle ground or if those things introduce their own problems with the antenna being off center and all that.

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drilled NMO on three different vehicles over the years and honestly once you do it right the first time you dont think twice about it. the key is getting a proper weather tight mount, i use Larsen mounts and have never had a water issue. just make sure you're going through a spot without a headliner brace underneath, shine a flashlight up there first or tap around to find solid vs hollow spots.

lip mounts work ok but yeah being off-center on the roof does affect your radiation pattern, probably not enough to matter for hitting a local repeater 10 miles away but if you care about performance its not ideal. and some lip mounts have a longer cable path which can pick up noise from the door area depending on your vehicle. for a truck id just go through the roof center and be done with it, you can always fill the hole with a rubber grommet if you ever sell the truck and want to remove it.

i ran a lip mount on my jeep for a while and the RF got into everything, my radio would pick up noise whenever i ran the blower fan. might have been a grounding issue with my specific install but it was a pain to track down. eventually just went NMO through the roof and all that went away. cant say for sure the lip mount caused it but the timing was suspicious.

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